En kirke i Pakistan

En kirke i Pakistan

Det har vært så mye snakk om moskeer i Norge og hvordan muslimene ikke ville tillate kirker i deres egne land .. fant dette bildet av en vakker kirke i Lahore som jeg ønsket å dele med dere alle ... dette er da Saint Anthony's Church, Lahore.

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Postet av: Shoaib

Finnes selvsagt mange andre ... fant noen flotte bilder på linken som ligger ved ...

Postet av: Sexy Sadie

Nå er det vel bare Saudi Arabia som ikke tolerer kirker på deres jord???

28.10.2006 @ 18:03
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Postet av: Didrik

Hah, "kirken" er sikkert bare en kamuflert moské for å narre naive, framtidige Dhimmis! Som han norske imamen sa, kan man få til hva som helst med datateknologi nå til dags.

29.10.2006 @ 07:54
Postet av: Shoaib

Søren også didrik, måtte du ødelegge alt? Du vet hva du er? Du er en propagandist!!! Det har Tore sagt, og da må det være sant!

29.10.2006 @ 10:16
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Postet av: Didder'n

Jeg visste at du ville sitere ham! For som vi vet er jo hodeskaut det samme som hakekorsarmbind, så muslimer og nazister er samme ulla. Kanskje du og Tore til og med er samme mann?

29.10.2006 @ 21:44
Postet av: Shoaib

Skal jeg lyse Odins forbannelse over deg eller? Din propahadaistiske shapeshifting lizard!

30.10.2006 @ 07:46
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Postet av: Shoaib

Bare som en hjelp til Didrik, never say I didnt do anything for you!

Postet av: Zakir Naik

Zakir Naik His viewsPropagation of Other faiths in Islamic stateZakir Naik says that propagation of other religions within an Islamic state is forbidden. While he appreciates people of other religions allowing Muslims to freely propagate Islam in their country, he feels there should not be any church or temple in an Islamic state. He makes an analogy to math and claims, "2+2 is only equal to 4, not 3 or 6. Similarly, truth is one and it is only Islam. Will non-Muslims allow 2+2 = 6 to be taught in their schools?"På lørdag arrangerte Pakistansk studentersamfunn (PSS) i Oslo visning av en film med islamisten Zakir Naik. Naik er fra India, representerer Islamic Research Foundation og turnerer verden rundt med sitt islamistiske budskap. Naik argumenterer blant annet for obligatorisk tildekning av kvinner, han sier ja til flerkoneri, nei til all musikk (med unntak av en enkel tromme), og ja til dødsstraff for frafall fra islam. Også Muslimsk studentersamfunn (MSS) promoterer Zakir Naik. Under Studentfestivalen i Oslo i august i år, viste MSS samme film som PSS med islamisten Naik. 20. september i år arrangerte MSS også foredrag med Zulqarnain Sakandar Madni, som de titulerer som ”bror”. Madni ble portrettert i NRK Brennpunkt i september i år, der han fremstår som en helstøpt salafist, utdannet i Saudi-Arabia der han studerte sharia. Madni har som mål å etablere et ummah i tråd med det samfunnet Muhammed skapte på 600-tallet på den arabiske halvøya.

31.10.2006 @ 18:39
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Postet av: Zakir Naik

Konklusjonen må være at kristne menigheter i Pakistan er styggedom som er innført av de Engelske imperialister . De må utslettes på linje med den Israelske stat ? Hvordan kan kirken fjernes ?The exact introduction of Christianity to the South Asia is a debatable topic, with the Syrian Christian community in Kerala, South India being recorded as the earliest. Missionaries accompanied colonizing forces from Portugal, France and Great Britain, but in north western Ancient India, today's Pakistan, Christiantiy was mainly brought by the British rulers of India in the later 18th and 19th century. This is evidenced in cities established by the British, such as the port city of Karachi, where the majestic St. Patrick's Cathedral, Pakistan's largest church stands, and the churches in the city of Rawalpindi, where the British established a major military cantonment.

Postet av: Qasi Hussain Ahmed

http://www.aftenposten.no/nyheter/uriks/article1516024.eceKABUL - Afghanistan’s intelligence agency said on Tuesday it had arrested three men planning suicide attacks in Kabul, including two from a Pakistan-based cell run by the capital’s Taleban-era deputy police chief.The two were seized this week while trying to enter the city from neighbouring Logar province, spokesman Sayed Ansari told reporters.They were part of a Pakistan-based cell organised by Mullah Mohammad Ibrahim Hanifi, who was the deputy police chief of Kabul during the 1996-2001 Taleban regime, he said.“Mullah Ibrahim Hanifi, who is living in Pakistan, has been organising suicide attacks in southern Afghanistan. The two men we captured were also sent by him,” he said.The agency was holding another man suspected of being an accomplice to a suicide bomber who killed around a dozen people outside the interior ministry on September 30, Ansari said.The blast was one of a series of seven that rattled the capital between early September and early October, killing scores of people, including three foreign soldiers.The suspect had been identified as a Pakistani national sent to Afghanistan by the outlawed Pakistani militant group of Harkat-ul-Mujahideen to carry out a suicide attack, Ansari said.Harkat-ul-Mujahideen has reported links to the Al Qaeda terror network and is said to be involved in crossborder attacks.Suicide attacks have soared in Afghanistan this year, with the tactic generally agreed to have been picked up from international militant groups.The NATO-led International Security Assistance Force said this month there had been 91 such attacks in 2006.The latest was on Tuesday and killed an Afghan policeman in the southern province of Ghazni, according to authorities.These attacks have killed 155 civilians, 40 members of the Afghan security forces, six government officials and 14 foreign troops, ISAF said.The Taleban, ousted from government in a US-led military offensive in 2001, uses suicide and road-side bombings in an insurgency that has peaked this year and seen the rebels take on security forces in sophisticated attacks.

Postet av: Shoaib

Mye rart her, og mye tull. Ser du klipper mye fra HRS sine hjemmesider, og det forklarer vel alt. Men jeg syntes passasjen under var den mest interessante: Konklusjonen må være at kristne menigheter i Pakistan er styggedom som er innført av de Engelske imperialister . De må utslettes på linje med den Israelske stat ? Hvordan kan kirken fjernes ?Så nå skal du fortelle muslimene hvordan de skal reagere på kristne i muslimske land? Tydeligvis lytter ikke muslimene helt tid dette da,og en mengde kristne lever dda i Pakistan, og bygger nye kirker gjør de og. (riktignok med masse byråkratiske problemer, et problem ikke ukjent for andre heller .. )

01.11.2006 @ 10:45
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Postet av: Qasi Hussain Ahmed

Kristene er skittne fattige hunder i Pakistanhttp://www.aftenposten.no/nyheter/uriks/article1516024.eceShoaib hvordan går korstoget mot HSR ?Du må ikke tro på noe om HSR har formidlet ,det kan være djevelens verk.http://www.khaleejtimes.com/DisplayArticleNew.asp?xfile=data/subcontinent/2006/October/subcontinent_October1210.xml§ion=subcontinent&col

Postet av: Shoaib

Mange ting her kjære deg, skal jeg kalle deg Peder eller hva?Hvem er kristene? Tydeligvis har kristnei Pakistan et greit, sikkert ikke veldig bra, men like greit som mange andre i landet, og bedre enn endel faktisk. Korstog mot HRS, nei der tar du feil. Jeg er uenig med HRS i mye, men kunne ikke falle meg inn å gjøre mot HRS det korsfarerne gjorde mot sine motstandere, enten de nå var muslimer, jøder eller "orientalske" kristne. Djevelens verk vet jeg ikke om HRS produserer, men jevnt over er det kvalitativt dårlig arbeide synes jeg. Kalitetskravene er vel kanskje ikke så høye hos Hr. Lucifer og hans stab? ;)Khaleejtimes saken er litt dum, for du tar saken fra en side, heller lite profesjonellt synes jeg. Men amnestysaken tar jeg mer alvorlig. Jobber faktisk med å presse på for en endring av blasfemilovgivningen som jeg mener misbrukes i stor grad, og på mange måter faktisk er uislamsk.

02.11.2006 @ 13:14
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Postet av: Nyamko Sabuni

Jeg kan vise deg dagens kosfarere.Eller er det folkemordere du vil kalle føreren av Sudan ?http://www.cbsnews.com/sections/i_video/main500251.shtml?id=2113182nSearching For Jacob“60 Minutes” correspondent Scott Pelley traveled to the Darfur region in Sudan to track down a boy whose village was destroyed by the Janjaweed Arab militia. Millions of people have been displaced. |

02.11.2006 @ 23:14
Postet av: Shoaib

Hei der Peder, Ser at du reagerer på at muslimene ikke er like ille som du vil ha dem til. Å trekke inn Sudan i en diskusjon om kirker og kristne i Pakistan viser jo ganske klart at egentlig "vet" du hva du vil mene om muslimer, så leter du etter fakta for å bevise det du allerede "vet".

03.11.2006 @ 19:50
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Postet av: Qazi Hussain Ahmad

Jeg vet nok til avite at jeg har mange støttespillere i Norge som er motstandere av ytringsfrihet og demokratiske rettigheter til politiske motstandere.Dine utspill i div aviser har skadet muslimers sak mer enn du aner.

Postet av: Shoaib

Er det peder som snakker her, eller er det din alter ego, Qasi (hvemdetnåenner) som hopper inn? Greit å vite at du identifiserer deg korrekt med "motstandere av ytringsfrihet og demokratiske rettigheter til politiske motstandere".Nuvel ... Hvilke av mine "utspill" er det som skader muslimene da tro?

04.11.2006 @ 14:21
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Postet av: Qazi Hussain Ahmad

The military component of the war on terrorism has had some significant success. A high proportion of those who associated with bin Laden between 1996 and 2001 are now either dead or in prison. Bin Laden's own ability to commission and instigate terror attacks has been severely curtailed. Enhanced cooperation between intelligence organizations around the world and increased security budgets have made it much harder for terrorists to move their funds across borders or to successfully organize and execute attacks.However, if countries are to win the war on terror, they must eradicate enemies without creating new ones. They also need to deny those militants with whom negotiation is impossible the support of local populations. Such support assists and, in the minds of the militants, morally legitimizes their actions. If Western countries are to succeed, they must marry the hard component of military force to the soft component of cultural appeal. There is nothing weak about this approach. As any senior military officer with experience in counterinsurgency warfare will tell you, it makes good sense. The invasion of Iraq, though entirely justifiable from a humanitarian perspective, has made this task more pressing.Bin Laden is a propagandist, directing his efforts at attracting those Muslims who have hitherto shunned his extremist message. He knows that only through mass participation in his project will he have any chance of success. His worldview is receiving immeasurably more support around the globe than it was two years ago, let alone 15 years ago when he began serious campaigning. The objective of Western countries is to eliminate the threat of terror, or at least to manage it in a way that does not seriously impinge on the daily lives of its citizens. Bin Laden's aim is to radicalize and mobilize. He is closer to achieving his goals than the West is to deterring him.

14.11.2006 @ 12:54
Postet av: Shoaib

Her er jeg for en gangs skyld enig, skrevet om dette i andre innlegg tidligere. Men det ar fortsatt ikke noe med kirker i Pakistan å gjøre. SKulle ønske du greide å holde deg til innlegget og ikke blande inn alt mellom himmel og jord, kun fordi det har ordene islam(ist) i seg ...

14.11.2006 @ 16:13
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Postet av: Qazi Hussain Ahmad

"The Militants Reject Modern Ideas in Favor of Traditional MuslimTheology"No. Although Islamic hard-liners long to return to an idealizedseventh-century existence, they have little compunction aboutembracing the tools that modernity provides. Their purportedmedievalism has not deterred militants from effectively using theInternet and videocassettes to mobilize the faithful.At the ideological level, prominent thinkers such as Sayyid Qutb andAbu Ala Maududi have borrowed heavily from the organizational tacticsof secular leftist and anarchist revolutionaries. Their concept of thevanguard is influenced by Leninist theory. Qutb's most important work,Ma'alim fi'l-tariq (Milestones), reads in part like an IslamicizedCommunist Manifesto. A commonly used Arabic word in the names ofmilitant groups is Hizb (as in Lebanon's Hizb Allah, or Hezbollah),which means "party"-another modern concept.

Postet av: Qazi Hussain Ahmad

Islamic militants' main objective is not conquest, but to beatback what they perceive as an aggressive West that is supposedlytrying to complete the project begun during the Crusades and colonialperiods of denigrating, dividing, and humiliating Islam. Themilitants' secondary goal is the establishment of the caliphate, orsingle Islamic state, in the lands roughly corresponding to thefurthest extent of the Islamic empire of the late first and earlysecond centuries. Today, this state would encompass the Middle East,the Maghreb (North Africa bordering the Mediterranean), Andalusia insouthern Spain, Central Asia, parts of the Balkans, and possibly someIslamic territories in the Far East. Precisely how this utopiancaliphate would function is vague. The militants believe that if allMuslims act according to a literal interpretation of the Islamic holytexts, an almost mystical transformation to a just and perfect societywill follow.

16.11.2006 @ 16:36
Postet av: Shoaib

`Det har hva med en kirke i Pakistan å gjøre?

17.11.2006 @ 22:40
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